thanks! i don't have super short legs, but at 5'3", most everything is too long for me if it doesn't come in more than one length. i finally figured out my actual rise in pants -- 31". the "ankle" length at gap (supposedly 30") is usually good but sometimes a bit too short, and the "regular" length (supposedly 32") is usually too long, but sometimes perfect. (of course the manufacturing can't be exactly consistent, that would be too much to ask. (the last pair of old navy jeans i bought actually has two different length legs!))